Not Planned Anti spam system for chat

The only reason I believe this system should be in place is not to punish regular players who spam sometimes but bots and players that character spam over many messages. This is why I'd make it 5 messages within 5 seconds - any spammy person or bot would reach that quick. And perhaps if there was 10+ messages within a 5 second period, maybe also if they were very similar to each other (bots) it would be an automatic mute/kick on suspicion of bot activity

I haven't seen a problem with bots recently, though, so I don't see how useful it would be. But overall, it is a good idea.

 

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As already mentioned above, Mineplex already has some form of anti-spam, which stops you from saying the same word twice, and it also will tell you you're sending too many messages too fast (I can't remember what timeframe you have to actually get that message though)

In my opinion, the anti spam Mineplex uses at the moment is sufficient - sincerely because you don't want the anti-spam to be punishing players, right? I feel like this would lead to a lot of unfair punishments. Players who are continuously getting muted by an anti-spam bot could clog up the appeals system, depending on how long their punishments are.

Not to mention that 3 messages in the space of 5 seconds is a very short timestamp in my opinion. This might be annoying for people who type fast or members of staff who are having multiple conversations in a lobby.

Also, us as a community have a part to play when it comes to eliminating spammers and rulebreakers. Mineplex has given us features such as /report and /chatsnap as a way for us to help them with cases like this, it's something we should definitely be using.

Unfortunately, it's a -1 for the idea for me. However, a rework to your suggestion could most definitely improve our anti spam system :)

 

Personally, I am not a big fan of this idea, for a couple reasons.

First, Mineplex already has an anti-spam system, that works alright. While it does have flaws, I would rather those be fixed, instead of a new system, especially one that auto-mutes.

Secondly, spam is just not that bad of an offense. While all offenses are "bad" spam generally doesn't hurt anyone, and is easily fixed by /report or by asking a staff member to come help. There are already so many options to deal with spam efficiently, that this just seems unnecessary to me.

Thirdly, this somewhat relates to the second point, but staff can already easily deal with spammers. Having an anti-spam system that auto-mutes worries me, because it could accidently mute people for saying "gg" too many times or something along the lines of that.

So in conclusion, I just don't think it is necessary to add a new anti-spam system that would just take more dev time on something that is not a big issue. Especially considering it could easily false mute players, which is not something we want to do.

 

Hi, I just need to think back to my mod times for some examples here.

This would be good in some ways as most spammers you see on the network are non-sentient compromised accounts or accounts that have been accessed illegally to cheat, and such cheat causes them to talk in chat repeatedly. If all spammers on the network were like this, then I'd have no problem with this idea; they are not. There are already some developed systems in place to try and combat this specific rule infraction such as the current anti-spam features that don't allow anyone to send the same message twice, or the feature that stops non-ranked players from chatting more than once per 5 seconds (May have been recently removed). Whilst these systems arguably don't have the greatest algorithms to detect commercial spam, they do do a lot. The other facts regarding this feature is whenever you build something to stop illegal actions on the server, the system will always generate some level of false positives, for example: false GWEN/Watchdog bans etc. There isn't really a way to stop this.

Commercial spam is one of the easiest things for staff to deal with. Even if they've got an entire lobby of bot accounts all spamming, they can slow the chat down and deal with them all very quickly. The /report feature is also incredibly efficient at combating people breaking chat rules. Other features exist too such as /ignore, turning off chat (drastic) or moving to a different lobby. For something so easy to evade or deal with, I wouldn't support a system being put in place that can generate lots more false positives. Given the actions it takes to prevent spamming, it's massively excessive for something that may not have occurred in the first place.

I can see that there is valid reasoning behind your idea, it's just the problem isn't big enough and people on some games talk very quickly which could raise issues with the system. It's also not a great feature that the limited amount of developers should be pouring lots of time into given that the problem isn't big enough. It could set back schedules to release large scale updates which could, at the same time, bring the mood towards the update down because some of the features aren't working properly or are causing problems.

I'm going to have to follow suit with everyone else sorry. -1

 

Hiya there,
A lot above has mentioned mineplex’s anti spam and how it’s already implemented. Sure there is flaws, the best solution to that is to have them re-coded to better improve the server. Definitely not a fan of auto-mutes as a flaw can possibly happen and players be muted for an offense they did not intend. It’s best left to staff to handle those situations. I seen players kicked for spamming which is great to warn the player or a potential rule break it is not allowed on the server to perform those actions. I hope my input was helpful as well! Thanks for suggesting your idea as always.
Have a good one <3!